“Wait, Is This a Date?” Podcast Episode 107: fancy just isn’t a Lie | Autostraddle

Wipe away those break up tears because we are going to show you that love isn’t a lie! This week we now have Autostraddle editor as well as around icon
Heather Hogan
referring to their 11 year(!!) relationship together with her girlfriend and all sorts of circumstances long term interactions.

But very first! We celebrate getting reunited — after an eventful summertime! — and perform a-game of guess the tv show from the fanfic.

PROGRAM RECORDS

+ If you’re an A+ user, look for
this enormous crossover fanfic
your Autostraddle television Team collectively had written,  like the Buffy/Faith/Nia Nal threesome I concocted.

+ one of the primary parts I blogged for Autostraddle was
this essay about season one of

Fleabag.

+ One other reason getting an A+ member: this
exclusive take a look at Heather and Stacy’s wedding ceremony!

+ I like interaction but
as Vanessa detailed here
there was such a thing as continuously running.

+ If you want an additional explore my personal mindset that just because an union stops does not mean it was not significant,
take a look at my personal favorite essay
I’ve ever created.

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Heather:

We remained out the whole evening, in fact it is only so away from fictional character for people. And that I think it was only, this really is indicative of our own relationship, i do believe, in which it actually was exactly like, this is awesome. Let’s simply do the next matter. This is so fun. Let us just do the following point. And I also think thatis just been precisely how all of our relationship’s already been for like 11 many years. Each step has just already been like, “This part’s great. What’s the the next thing we’re able to carry out?” very, yeah.

Theme song performs

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

And I’m Christina.

Drew:

And this is,

Wait, Is This a night out together?

Christina:


Wait, Is It a Date?

is an Autostraddle podcast focused on the burning concern: wait, so is this a romantic date? In which Drew and I discover all kinds of things about online dating. Something dating, somethingn’t dating. And extremely just have a grand adventure, I would say.

Drew:

I would personally additionally claim that it’s been a grand adventure thus far and can continue being. I am Drew Gregory. I am a writer for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I also desire something new to increase the blend. I never ever can contemplate everything brand new. I do believe those tend to be my identities.

Christina:

Occasionally identification doesn’t alter, despite what TikTok will say to you.

Drew:

I Am Jewish.

Christina:

Yeah. I mean like—

Drew:

Sort of. I am talking about, yeah. No, I’m not spiritual, but that is in addition element of my identification. You can easily tell from my locks.

Christina:

Who hasn’t changed however, I suppose.

Drew:

That I Am Jewish?

Christina:

Yeah. You’ve been Jewish.

Drew:

No, I’ve been Jewish. Yeah, that failed to happen between your two attacks. Really, who will be you, Christina?

Christina:

I’m Christina. I’m also an author at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual on the internet. I’m actually getting excited about the introduction of Princess Diana period, AKA bike short pants and sweatshirts. That’s where i am attempting to end up being. I am in Philadelphia, so it’s 96 degrees today. Therefore we’re gradually obtaining there. It’s just like Needs it immediately. It really is my ideal time. I want to end up being a main personality during the fall, and it’s not going on yet.

Drew:

Yeah. Well, what is exciting you are disclosing at the moment is, so for the audience, this has been each week since all of our final episode, that’s exactly what it usually is. But also for us, we in fact recorded the initial six symptoms once we were locating the voice and developing this new podcast. We taped that beforehand, the good news is we are quite existing. So this is like we have now had a whole summertime. So we have not taped in months therefore we’ve been around all sorts of things

Christina:

Uncharted territory. The past time we taped, we hadn’t satisfied. We have fulfilled personally.

Drew:

That’s true! Yes!

Christina:

Drew was in my personal ding, dang residence, simply chilling out.

Drew:

Yes!

Christina:

I might just wake up and start to become want, “Well, check, that’s Drew over here.”

Drew:

Thus good.

Christina:

It absolutely was actually delightful.

Drew:

You’ve got these a lovely residence.

Christina:

Thank-you. It is a gay turmoil home and in addition we love it extremely dearly. Yeah. So we’re just on another quest and it’s really really exciting to-be going on this venture with this listeners. Will we have anything we want to pontificate in regards to before we have into our very own little video game?

Drew:

I mean, I am not sure. I’d a huge summer, but I Suppose situations may come upwards once the attacks come-along, but…

Christina:

Yeah, I really don’t want you to load almost everything right in front.

Drew:

You don’t want us to spoil anything?

Christina:

Yeah. Load it all in the front? My God, exactly what an awful sentence.

Drew:

It sounded somewhat intimate, but also I Truly had a lot more of a considered similar—

Christina:

It did!

Drew:

I was thinking a lot more though that you are currently leaving Residence Depot and had been like stepping into your car or truck, that I understand there isn’t, but which was in addition where my personal brain is, that also may be intimate.

Christina:

I also only love your thing that’s keeping myself from attending Residence Depot is actually a motor vehicle and never the actual person that Im. Like every time i am at a property Depot, somebody happens to be like, “Ma’am are you presently lost? Are you currently safe here?” And I’m similar, “No, honestly. A whole lot lumber about. I’m not secure.” Thus I have a game title for Drew because we love to perform games.

Drew:

I am hearing.

Christina:

And that I decided, throughout respect of me and the visitor, that this would end up being some intro into the world of fanfic for Drew. Just what You will find completed is actually i have used five shows from Drew’s preferred Characters in tv number, and I am gonna study you some tags from AO3’s fanfiction and you are planning to need to imagine which of this shows these tags are talking about. I shall start general, they will increase specific into the tv series as we complement.

Drew:

Okay. I Recently involve some questions—

Christina:

However you are doing.

Drew:

Because I am not sure a lot towards fanfic world. So every tv show provides terms which happen to be related to that show?

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

That array in specificity, I would personally think about?

Christina:

Sure. Yes, they do.

Drew:

And so any time you planned to get a hold of a demonstrate that had like, I’m not sure, medieval times you might strike the medieval tag.


Christina:

We’ll declare that I didn’t find any medieval occasions labels in virtually any among these programs. Love to see it.

Drew:

Well, that isn’t my flavor, but I happened to be just organizing something out.

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

Because i suppose inside my brain, I happened to be like, oh, well, if you find yourself reading fanfic, you are searching for implies that have figures you would like. But that is not at all times happening. Often you are just looking for an interest and then you can learn programs from fanfic?

Christina:

You could potentially. That would be an unusual option to approach fanfic since the majority people address it knowing the ship they usually have in your mind. And people say, i wish to read probably an alternate world version of this fanfic. Maybe i’d like some damage convenience. Maybe I would like a slow burn. Perhaps i recently wish some straight up smut. There’s a lot of places for which folks get. Right after which there’s also only extra labels, letting you know the type of taste and vibe of the story. And now wewill go flavor and feeling. Because demonstrably ships can give it away and another market just isn’t particularly beneficial per the show, therefore weare going to end up being certain for the tv show.

Drew:

Okay, cool. Why don’t we jump engrossed.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

Let us discover with each other. Yeah.

Christina:

Okay. Very first one. We will focus on imaginary politics, compliments kink, abandonment problems, really sluggish burn.

Drew:

Praise kink, political… imaginary politics?

Christina:

Fictional politics, yes.

Drew:

Really does that mean like politics that are grounded in the real world, but are fictional or completely fictional politics?

Christina:

I haven’t take a look at fic involved, but i am assuming it indicates totally imaginary politics.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

We are able to keep working.

Drew:

Yeah, keep going.

Christina:

Past abuse, injured convenience, I wanted comfortable things to stay therefore would you. Hilarious tag. Just needed to read this one.

Drew:

Okay, hold off. Maybe I should simply take an additional and consider what my personal favorite programs are. Okay. Because i am attempting to think about the demonstrates have actually politics inside them. Oh hold off, could it be

The L Word?

Christina:

This option is certainly not

The L Keyword.

No.

Drew:

For the reason that it does have artificial politics.

Christina:

It will.

Drew:

Because Bette runs for mayor. I’m not sure any time you just remember that ,.

Christina:

Oh, i really do.

Drew:

Okay, let us see. The Other…

Vida

provides politics.

Christina:


Vida

has actually politics.

Drew:

Could it be

Vida?

Christina:

Sadly,

Vida

won’t have any fanfics.


Drew:

Oh, just what?

Christina:

I am aware. So folks, get to it.

Drew:

Individuals, get on that. I would personally review that fanfic.

Christina:

People, will it.

Drew:

Okay. Why don’t we see. What other…

Christina:

I could keep going.

Drew:

Continue. Yeah.

Christina:

Cat and mouse. Possessive conduct.

Drew:

Oh, oh,

Killing Eve.

Christina:

There you choose to go.

Drew:

Cat and mouse got me. Oh, praise kink. Yeah. Okay, it really is all pressing. Its all clicking.

Christina:

Every thing ticks. It all ticks. It actually was also challenging because I experienced to track down ones which were specific sufficient to the show, but like, it may surprise you to definitely know there’s lots of compliments kink things nowadays.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Just like plenty. Just like a ton.

Drew:

In my opinion that. I love all of our neighborhood.

Christina:

I understand. These just isn’t on the listing of favorite shows and/or preferred TV characters because some of your favorite shows didn’t have fics, which had been unfortunate.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

But that is a program we’ve discussed a lot and I also believe you’re going to get it.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Eventually. This can be probably going to be simple obtainable, i’m.

Drew:

Oh, Jesus. Force.

Christina:

Male relationship. Emotionally repressed.

Drew:


Looking?

Christina:

No.

Drew:


Ted Lasso?

Christina:

Yep. Yep.

Drew:

Like, what reveals perform we see with men? Okay, why don’t we take to the homosexual any. Nope. Let’s try the right one.

Christina:

Yeah, another one would definitely be “team connection” and that I ended up being like, that’s a straightforward one. There’s a straightforward one. Okay. Let us see. Canon personality death, LGBTQ character of tone. There’s a tongue twister for you. Groups of choice. Mummy daughter union.

Drew:


Feel 8?

Christina:

No. in your neighborhood, I would say. I would personally say where zone.

Drew:


Pose?

Christina:

Yeah. Another one would be canon intercourse work, therefore — fine, we’ve got two more.

Drew:

Okay. I favor it.

Christina:

Jealousy. I’m frightened within this subsequent episode because I don’t trust the experts. A literal tag about this fic. Iconic.

Drew:

Okay. What i’m saying is, I really don’t believe

Glee

is on my personal list, but that is the thing I would initial believe.

Christina:

It’s not

Glee.

I do not believe

Glee

ended up being on many lists.

Drew:

It is not.

Christina:

But funny point. Ex-lovers to pals back to lovers trope, household feels, friendship. A long awaited reunion.

Drew:

Ex-lovers to buddies back. Is it

The L word?

Christina:

It is

The L term.

Drew:

Okay. I happened to be like, ex-lovers to friends back into ex… Yeah, the ex-lovers.

Christina:

The sad most important factor of

The L phrase

fanfic may be the staggering quantity of Bette Tina fanfic is like, y’all want to…

Drew:

You are sure that, I think we might have a reason to get into this later. Which is somewhat tease in regards to our primary subject.

Christina:

Okay. Angst.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Bittersweet finishing.

Drew:


Freaks and Geeks?

Christina:

Close — no, perhaps not close. I don’t have to lie to you personally.

Drew:

I am not sure the reason why. I recently got a jab at anxiety and bittersweet closing. That is simply kind of my personal thing.

Christina:

Yeah. That is true. Which is very true. Romance (extremely unfortunate). Which is in parentheses, ab muscles unfortunate.

Drew:

And it’s really perhaps not

The Leftovers.

Christina:

It isn’t

The Leftovers.

I am not planning to offer this-

Drew:

Okay. I’m going to be able to get this. Very angst.

Christina:

m4m websites-hmm (affirmative).

Drew:

Bittersweet ending.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.

Drew:

Romance, really unfortunate.

Christina:

Unresolved intimate tension.

Drew:

This really is all. This is just me personally. This is exactly like everything. This may you should be anything.

Christina:

Yeah, welcome to fanfic, hottie.

Drew:

Ooh. After all, wow. Exactly what a welcome.

Christina:

Pining is an additional one.

Drew:

Exactly how is this in the same family? Okay, hold off, I would ike to think about reveals that I like that are homosexual and also have an angst. Pining.

Christina:

I’ll state this program is certainly not gay.

Drew:

Oh.

Christina:

However it is a reveal that I’m sure you like.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

Would you like one whichshould provide away?

Drew:

I Actually Do consider we have to log in to using podcast—

Christina:

I really do.

Drew:

However if it had been just both you and i love hanging out as friends, i might be like, no, no, no, offer myself a half hour. But fine, offer me the one.

Christina:

Blasphemy, spiritual injury.

Drew:


Fleabag.

Christina:

Here it really is.

Drew:

Here its.

Fleabag

is actually a demonstrate that given that a number of the insane culture around it’s got gone away and it is not like each one of these frustrating some people’s personalities, I’m like, amazing tv series.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Merely a fantastic tv show.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Just what a good, great tv system. That was a lot of fun. Thanks a lot.

Christina:

When.

Drew:

And I also’d love to merely make a public-service… No, that isn’t what it is. Like a request to people that i would like some

Vida

fanfic. I’ll read it. I’m not sure just who Needs that it is between. Possibly it can be, what is actually it known as if it is like two… We did this. We performed this in television group. We performed like a cross… What’s the word for it? What’s it when it’s like multiple programs?

Christina:

Yeah. Cross… Cross… That thing. I know what you’re saying. I cannot think of the word. We’re able to deliver all of our visitor in. I am aware they are aware the term.

Drew:

Okay. We’re going to enter into our very own significant topic we are able to generate all of our guest so her head doesn’t explode as she’s attempting to tell us this term. Guest, would you like to introduce your self?

Heather:

Yes. Hello, this really is Heather Hogan. Im an Autostraddle journalist and publisher. And in most cases as I tune in to this podcast, I play along adore it’s a game show whenever y’all do your games. It absolutely was very difficult personally is peaceful while this ended up being happening.

Christina:

I found myself like, that is likely to be actually fun, but it is in addition gonna be so difficult for me to achieve this and Heather you need to be hushed.

Heather:

Yeah. My favorite at this point was, “Exactly who stated It: Drew or Sappho?”

Christina:

Thank-you.

Heather:

And I was certainly cheering like I was on

The Purchase Price Is Right.

I found myself like, “Christina, no it is Drew! It Is Drew! Its Drew! No, its Sappho!” You performed great. You probably didn’t even require my personal help at that video game.

Christina:

Re-listening to this one, I happened to be enjoy, really, damn I do know my friends slash i assume the written text of Sappho.

Heather:

You did really well.

Drew:

You smashed it. In addition experience… to ensure the overall game worked, I tried it on several people. Some people that do know me a lot better than you are doing, Christina, as well as all would never get it done. And so I was very pleased by you.

Christina:

Sounds like I’m a success, in fact it is all those things things.

Drew:

Heather, reveal exactly what that word is for our fanfiction.

Heather:

It’s just crossover.

Christina:

It really is a crossover, yeah!

Drew:

Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I imagined there was some fancy phrase for this. But anyways, when someone would like to create

Vida

fanfic that’s a crossover, it’s something else that Everyone loves. I would want to see more of it. So our very own major topic recently is not fanfic. It is lasting interactions. Because, Heather, the length of time are you within present relationship?

Heather:

I’ve been using my girlfriend for 11 many years.

Drew:

Oh, that is a long time.

Christina:

Drew, have you ever accomplished any such thing consistently for 11 years? Because We undoubtedly haven’t.

Drew:

No, not gender. I’ven’t completed such a thing. Just what have I {done|completed|acco